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Now the Washington Post Dissess Bloggers!

Posted by Allison Fine on April 24, 2009

On Wednesday the Washington Post dissed the Causes application on Facebook with a lazy, inaccurate article. Last night, they dissed those of blogging about it, too!

There has been quite an uproar about the lazy article in the Washington Post about the Causes application on Facebook last Wednesday. A lot of people have read and commented on my post about the inaccuracies of the article, the fact that it was a rehash from last year, and the need to reframe the Causes application for which I am very grateful. I have really enjoyed the conversation and learned that I could have been more accurate in my initial assessment in two ways: 1. The incredible growth of new Facebook users who are women over 50 has raised the average age of Facebook users overall to over 25 for the first time (which should be good news for Causes!); 2. The 8,000 Causes users who have partnered with Network for Good are not the only groups that can raise money on the site. Others can sign up for donations as well, however, the reality is that those 8,000 have raised the overwhelmingly amount of donations using Causes.

As these posts and conversations were whipping through the tubes, Michael Ames, the Tech Hermit, took the initiative to reach out to the Washington Post writers directly and ask for their feedback on the inaccuracies in their article and the feeling that the article covered no new ground.  He received a startling response, here is the entire email exchange:

Kim/Megan,

On twitter and in the blog world that deals with development and social media, you guys are getting hammered on a couple of points.

1. Old information rehashed. Nothing new here, what prompted you restirring this year old conversation?

2. You focused on wrong stats. Network for good only works with a 8000 causes that have used causes to also ask for donations. 242,000 causes aren’t asking for money, aren’t registered with network for good in order to ask for money. You evaluation is off because you confuse causes with intentional fundraising.

3. You blanket sweep the word “ineffective” with donations being your only metric. The development sysle measures effectivesness in very different ways. Some causes are about advocacy, not donations. Some cause are about both, but don’t use the cause app to ask for money.

Either way, you are getting dismissed.
If you are having trouble finding where the conversation is dismissing you, let me know, I’ll steer you to the most influential of the bloggers who are leading the charge against your analysis.

Michael

The response…

Hi Michael,

We’re well aware of the blog chatter out there. We stand by the reporting, obviously, and dispute the alleged factual inaccuracies. While it’s true that only 8,000 nonprofts with Causes pages have signed up with Network for Good, it is incorrect to say that those are the only ones who can raise money through the site — just by having a Causes page, a nonprofit can receive donations through Network for Good without signing up or doing anything special While not all of those nonprofits got into Causes with the goal of raising money (a point we made in the article, quoting the Nature Conservancy), those who DO hope to fundraise through the application have not raised much — thus our point that it’s ineffective as a fundraising mechanism. That doesn’t mean it’s a worthless operation, just that it hasn’t shown a ton of progress on the fundraising part of its mission.

As for the point about it being old news, I don’t think that’s true except among a small number of social media types. I know similar topics have been undertaken on a number of nonprofit/social media blogs for as long as Causes has existed (we quoted the author of one of those blog posts), but the vast majority of our readers don’t follow those blogs, and we thought it was important to bring an analysis to the general readership. Others are free to disagree on that point, but that was my perspective when I decided to crunch some of those numbers.

I hope this is a useful explanation, and I’ll say the same thing to anyone who contacts me. We’re not in the business of responding to criticism on blogs, but if people are interested enough to contact me directly I am more than willing to have a conversation with them. So thanks for writing!

So, the good news was the quick email response.  However the response is breathtaking in its arrogance and dissmissal of online conversations. Wow!!!  You’re “well aware of the blog chatter” and it’s not old news becuase the only folks who would remember the same article from last year are “social media types” but here’s the real kicker, “We’re not in the business of responding to criticism on blogs, but if people are interested enough to contact me directly I am more than willing to have a conversation with them.”
I’m trying to regain my equilibrium here.  Let me walk through this WashPo logic:  1. We’re doing a story on the use of social media to raise money and awareness of causes so we feel free to dismiss those people working in social media. We’re losing our shirt, like the rest of the newspaper world, but we won’t deign to engage in the online conversation. The disdain with which the phrase, “criticism on blogs” is dripping from the screen. So, WashPo writers, you’re above bloggers, which means you’ve decided you’ve above participating in the conversation about your own article. So you write, inaccurately, and then post it, and then walk away but deign to have a few private email conversations (which even you must know will be posted online by the blogger to whom you just sent it) it’s difficult to imagine what business the Post thinks their in — or how they’re going to be in business much longer working this way.  I have often wrote recently that my heart goes out to those papers, their employees and communities that are suffering right now — but, boy, these arrogant journalists make it awfully hard!

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3 Responses to “Now the Washington Post Dissess Bloggers!”

  1. mikeyames said

    Allison,
    I took time to rewrite them on these points that you bring up.
    Haven’t heard back yet…
    I wrote the ombudsman (trusted intermediary between an organization and some external constituency) at the Post as well to see if this is an organizational policy. Their email response wasn’t very clear on this point.

    I think there are two major points to be made in the exchange of ideas that actually took place.

    1. There needs to be some fundamental understanding of the professional development cycle. Individuals who don’t understand the basics of that process are now able to join in with easy and accessible technology (dive in! go to it!), but maybe their numbers shouldn’t skew the overall understanding of the tools effectiveness.

    2. We need a vocabulary that points out a difference between (1)online gifts (2)online giving and (3)online fundraising. All three are very different. The distinction needs to be made in the reporting. When they answer back that ” a nonprofit can receive donations through Network for Good without signing up or doing anything special” they are commenting on online gifts or online giving, NOT online (intentional, strategic)fundraising.

  2. What, no comments from the Washington Post?

    Great piece! Just posted a quick pointer to this and to Brian Reich’s thoughts
    http://beth.typepad.com/beths_blog/2009/04/washington-post-piece-on-facebook-causes-prompts-more-dissing-and-some-brilliant-reflections.html

    Maybe the New York Times will write an article that gets it right?

  3. I’ve been following this thread on this blog – the two posts (this one and the other one) as well as the comments – and have read the Washington Post article. And while I did not find the Washington Post article flawless, it was hardly an egregious example of lazy reporting, as it has been characterized on this blog. The scope of the article was evaluating the amount of money raised through Causes and the fact is there is not a lot happening. The article does not say that Causes is worthless and that nonprofits shouldn’t use it – it was just saying not a lot of money is being raised through it.

    Secondly, I did not think the email response from the Post’s journalists was so problematic or unreasonable. The response defended the article and tried to clarify their perspective and defend it against the charges being levied. But just as importantly, it was respectful and civil in tone. I have to say, that’s an improvement from what I’ve been reading here which is leveling some fairly harsh criticism and doing a fair amount of misrepresentation of the position the article takes. I agree that the article could have been more clear on the number of Causes in existence, how many of those are nonprofits, and who is eligible to receive donations through Facebook and Network for Good. But the Washington Post writers did not say Causes is a waste of time, that it does not raise awareness, or that there aren’t returns that are not purely financial.

    And the journalists of the Washington Post, or any other news publication (including blogs), are not required to participate in the discussion that is happening on this blog. Their indication that they do not participate in such discussions is not arrogant and dismissive, as Ms. Fine said. It is not their job to do so. It would be nice, perhaps, if they did, but it is no crime if they do not. And let’s be honest, the atmosphere here is not the most inviting. As it is fair to say the reporting in the article was not perfect, it is fair to say the response had its flaws and was misleading. One quick example in Ms. Fine’s post, which served as the jumping off point for one of her arguments, was that she quoted the article as saying Causes were “largely ineffective.” The full quote from the Post’s article was, “The Facebook application Causes, hugely popular among nonprofit organizations seeking to raise money online, has been largely ineffective in its first two years, trailing direct mail, fundraising events and other more traditional methods of soliciting contributions.” That is to say, it has been largely ineffective at raising money, especially when compared to more “traditional methods.”

    While I generally enjoy the content of this blog, it has been a bit dispiriting to see how the dialogue here has evolved. I think it lost its civil tone and the waters have been muddied and the battle lines drawn to the point where it’s not clear what the main points of the disagreement are anymore. And this is coming from someone who would normally be on your side of the argument. I’ve been working in the nonprofit sector for almost 15 years on technology and communications issues. I embrace social media. I’m often frustrated with the mainstream media. But with all due respect, I just don’t feel this is the best way to seek truth and promote healthy, civic dialogue.

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