Women, Social Media and Influence
Posted by Allison Fine on December 4, 2009
My friend Linda Tarr-Whelan, a colleague at Demos, published a wonderful book this year called Women Lead the Way. In the book, Linda outlines the distressingly dismal statistics of the flatlining of women’s leadership in all three sectors. For instance, the number of women in Congress has increased a whopping 2% from 14-16% in fifteen years, and the number of women CEOs of Fortune 500 companies has actually gone down.
Not yet depressed enough, I began to dig in further and found that the number of women film directors is less than 10% of the total, and the number of women CEOs of the largest nonprofit organizations has remained flat for years at 20% of the total. There was more bad news, but I don’t want to depress you too much!
There are a variety of reasons for the lack of progress for women in traditional institutional positions. Some women who could afford to have opted out as Lisa Belkin wrote, or chosen to get off of the leadership track for more balance in their lives, or hit the still-in-place glass ceiling. We have lots of firsts, women generals, and CEOs and almost presidents, and the idea of a woman in almost any job other than linebacker for the Giants, is easy to imagine, but the numbers of women in senior leadership positions within institutions, particularly in comparison to the number of women graduating with advanced degrees is astonishingly low. And, as Linda points out, low in comparison to other democratic countries.
So, I roused myself from my depression and began to wonder if perhaps the advent of social media could change this trajectory. Are social media channels like blogs, Twitter and Facebook, opportunities for women to overcome the traditional barriers that exist within institutions of position, financial resources and permission? Could women use social media to create their own followings and platforms for discussing issues and influencing other people’s opinions and actions?
There are lists of influential women bloggers, like this one: 50 Most Influential Women in Social Media in 2008. This ranking is based on Alexa rankings of traffic to these sites unlike the Technorati authority that ranks blogs according to the number of incoming links. But since Technorati doesn’t break out any data by gender, we have lists like this one.
But, these kinds of lists leave me with more questions than answers. For instance, is the amount of traffic the same as influence or power? How do we compare this online presence to on land power? Would these women have been just as powerful in the analog world, or has social media enabled them to do and be something entirely different? And is it important to compare these rankings to a comparable set of men?
I began to scratch the surface on these kinds of questions and came across something very interesting. The School of Journalism at Indiana University reports that women have remained a constant 33% of all journalists in mainstream media for years. Technorati reports in its annual report on the blogosphere that women make up one third of bloggers. So, they’re the same, right? Wrong, many more women than men graduate from journalism school and women make up 54.2 percent of journalists with only five years experience. This means that before women can become truly influential journalists they drop out, or opt out or get bounced out. Will the same kind of trajectory affect women bloggers, I wonder?
Although the question of influence works across the social media landscape, I am particularly interested, no surprise!, in women, social media and social change.
As I begin to dig deeper into this area, I wanted to ask for some help. Here are a few questions that I hope others will help me to wrestle with — or disabuse of me of the notion entirely! They are:
- Is my gut instinct that social media may offer an opportunity for women to become more influential than in traditional organizations correct?
- Who else is looking into this so I don’t reinvent the wheel? But, please let me distinguish something important. There are a lot of organizations, like the Pew Center on the Internet and American Life and Blogher that have studied how women are using social media. This is different from the questions that I have as to whether women using social media are themselves becoming more influential. I’m not so much interested in knowing that the majority of Twitter users are women (which they interestingly report) but rather are particular women Twitter users influential in their own right (in addition to Beth, of course!) and more influential than they would be on land.
- How should influence be defined? Beth wrote a great post called Measuring the Impact, Not the Influence. She cautions against being dazzled by the numbers of readers or friends or followers and missing the more important point of the need for influencers to build relationships and turn all of that good capital into social change. This is the same in the program evaluation world of getting carried away with outputs, numbers of people served, and missing the outcomes or results. As I commented on that post, I think there has to be a balance between the need to have a large audience of potential doers and then getting them to do something.
Really looking forward to this conversation and your help, thanks!
Full Disclosure: I am considering turning these thoughts into a research proposal for next year.
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Allison Fine said
From Amy Sample Ward:
Allison – Thanks so much for starting a deep and what will probably be very long (over many other blog posts, coffees and conference sessions) conversation.
Don’t know what it’s worth, but for transparency, I am a woman, and I graduated from a journalism program with a degree in New Media Journalism. So, I’m sure I’m statistic about women in Journalism school but I had no intention of being a traditional journalist, it was, instead, the only way to get a degree in New Media
I think that when comparing the online activities, especially in social media, with those offline in business and orgs you have to consider the same issues as you stated in the post. Why are women blogging? Is it to be influential or is to have a private blog where they can update family about their kids? Is it to grow a list of subscribers or just share their favorite books, recipes, etc.? This isn’t to say, by any means, that women aren’t out there to tackle the world like men, but if enough women are skewing the stats by choosing life over work, or privacy over publicity, then it would make sense they make those decisions in social media, too.
Can’t wait to continue this conversation with you!
Joanne Fritz said
What a great question, Allison! Social media does break down a lot of barriers for women. For instance, location (no need to be where the “action is,” in a cubicle, or even away from home at all); income (although it costs a bit to be connected, the entry cost is very low); age (no lower or upper age limits to participation – a young woman or a retired woman can participate equally); access (there is an infinite audience, so it is so much easier to find people who care about the same things). Plus, it’s “social,” something at which women usually excel. Some research on this would be wonderful. Are women more or less persistent than men when using social media? Do women turn social media into businesses as often as men? Does a male “voice” still carry more “authority” than women in social media? Do women use social media differently? Are women’s issues receiving more attention as a result of women using social media? How do women themselves define influence in social media? Looking forward to more discussion of this…Thanks, Allison.
Allison Fine said
These are great comments, Joanne, thanks! I didn’t specifically bring up mommy bloggers because I’m not sure what to make of them in a social change context. But I wonder if they are raising issues and giving them more visibility simply because of their influence. Thanks again, lots to chew on here!
Alex, aka SocialButterfly said
Hey Allison–Great questions! I don’t have any answers, but I just have some thoughts to add to the mix. I, like Amy, am a journalism grad myself!
I’m wondering if these questions are “women-only” quesitons as I think they could apply across the board. I think a part of the question is: Is there any correlation to online influence/traffic/etc. with offline impact? And if so, what’s the degree of this impact and how is it tangible (position, money, policy change, etc)? I’m not sure it’s just women–I think it’d be interesting to look at it from the perspective of men, or young adults, or even seniors. Is social media and their online activity helping them achieve tangible, offline impact…and influence?
To get to the answer of your questions, a starting point might be working to define influence…
Lucy Bernholz said
Allison
Great question – I would ask you in return what are the characteristics (if any) of social media that you think might allow for this change? Access? Low cost/big audience? 24/7 cycle that may be more accommodating then the structures of offline work world that have limited women’s influence?
As always, you’ve got me thinking….thanks!
Lucy
Kaliya said
Hey Allison,
I think that social media is allowing women in the tech industry to talk about and challenge the status quo of who is seen on stage. Where as before we might have all commented to ourselves in person at an event about how few women there are on stage. Now our comments in twitter are seen far and wide, petitions have been organized against conference organizers that have changed behavior.
These new mediums help link together more loosely coupled networks and support organizing that would not have been possible before. I think She’s Geeky the women’s tech unconference that I founded is getting stronger and gaining visibility from twitter. Women flew from Minneapolis to DC cause they saw it in twitter.
Our next event is coming up in January in the Bay Area and hopefully we can consider some of the questions you are raising.
-Kaliya
Kristin Ivie said
I too would love to see research on this, but I think social media provides a great platform for people who are somewhat marginalized by more traditional organizations and hierarchies – including women and young people. Being a female Millennial, I see how social media has increased opportunities for me and my peers to share our ideas and be a part of important conversations in our sector – conversations that might exclude us if left to traditional structures. It would be interesting to examine how idea exchange and thought-leadership through blogging and tweeting has translated into tangible offline opportunities for women or whether their increased influence is largely limited to silos in these online communities. And is the respect and influence they gain limited to a few topics (i.e. social media use, among social media users), or can it provide opportunity to women in any field?
maggielmcg said
Great post and some great comments. I could probably write a novel on this subject but will try to refrain from filling up your comments section; suffice it to say I think about this issue a lot!
I think what Kristin Ivie says is dead-on–I think social media does provide a platform that is both gender- and age-neutral (to a degree) where what matters are your ideas and intelligence and not your gender or your appearance. I think that social media actually offers the solution to on-ramping–you can leave the workforce but stay active online, therefore successfully maintaining your online presence so that when you’re ready to physically go back to work, you’ve got it much easier than someone who just left the workforce and disappeared off the radar for X years. I was home with kids for 8 years and social media is what made my re-entry to the workforce much easier and my career advancement faster. I got my first speaking engagement (post-baby career break) via social media and have gotten many subsequent ones the same way–it’s a snowball effect. You have much more control over your online presence than you do some workplaces–online, your potential for influence is exponentially greater than inside the physical confines of your office building.
I think women are in somewhat of a power seat with social media these days now that marketers have realized they make the purchasing decisions for households. Of course, being women, we then marginalize ourselves with the title “mommy blogger”…but I digress.
The sad reality, though, is that even though women by all rights should be poised for equality in social media, a recent salary survey shows that’s not the case. Rather than re-hash here, I blogged about it if anyone is interested in the findings: http://www.mizzinformation.com/2009/10/social-media-salary-report-ladies-its.html
Allison Fine said
This is terrific, Maggie, thanks so much for joining the conversation. I totally agree with you that the characteristics of social media make it possible for the playing field to be leveled for women. But the harder question is how to do we measure that it is indeed happening? Women are still only a third of the bloggers out there according to Technorati (although some folks think that is inaccurate, but there is no better data set that I know of) so, how we can PROVE that what we think is or should be happening actually is happening??
Allison
maggielmcg said
Good questions…I’m a good thinker but not a great prover! I’l give it some thoughts. I would very highly doubt that women are only a third of bloggers out there. I think they maybe got more male respondents because men primarily blog in some business-related capacity; there are thousands of mom bloggers out there who would probably never know how to access Technorati’s survey.
This doesn’t directly address your question, but you might find it interesting: The Rise of the Real Mom
http://adage.com/whitepapers/whitepaper.php?id=10
Marcia Stepanek said
What a great discussion to begin, and thanks for that! I agree with some of those who posted a comment before me that it’s important to ask these questions of men, as well. [I'd love to see some poll data based on a broad cross-section of respondents by gender, age, socioeconomics, religion,family, income]
I’m also wondering if social media have made it easier for women to start up their own businesses. Women have always been influential in the small business arena, and I’ve a hunch that social media might further ease the barriers of entry into that world. As a journalist, business owner, and media entrepreneur, I’m familiar with entrepreneurs in this space and anecdotally, I’ve never seen so many women starting small new ventures or talking about the link between social media/small business enterprise. I’d love to be able to track this with research and survey data. Thanks for your endeavor on this. I’ll look forward to hearing what you discover!
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Julia Rocchi said
Wow, this convo isn’t food for thought — it’s a feast for thought! I second everyone’s questions, particularly: why are women blogging (their goals), how do we measure the depth of our online engagement, and what do women translate online influence/impact into offline.
Some other thoughts, crumbs though they might be:
* I, like Kristin Ivie, am a Millennial woman blogger. I’ve never felt at competition with men who blog, or felt their voices carried more authority online. Pursuing a niche audience, by its very design, favors cross-pollination over competition. I think that’s a great equalizer that transcends gender.
* That said, I’m curious to know if certain niches or subjects have different gender breakdowns online. For instance, when you look at offline life, women aren’t heavily represented in finance but are in communications. Does that proportion carry through to the bloggers and thought leaders online who are involved in the same fields?
* I’ve heard women debate many things online, but this is the first I’m hearing anything about a virtual glass ceiling. So I wonder … have I not heard about it because a) it’s not an issue, b) it’s there but we never noticed it, or c) it’s a glaring problem and we’ve been too afraid to speak about it (and I’m just oblivious)?
Can’t wait to participate in what happens next!
Joanne Fritz said
May I comment twice? I love Julia’s term “virtual glass ceiling.” I guess I’m one who wondered about that, and I have to admit that I am of a generation that is pretty accustomed to seeing men take over just about anything, once involved. I just haven’t seen any analysis of what is happening online in regard to gender, other than in terms of users as Allison has pointed out. Online communications seems generally very egalitarian around those issues where we have been divided such as gender, race, age, ethnicity, etc. But we won’t know for sure until we do some analysis. And then I’m wondering too about the various types of online communication…business and professional vs personal for instance. How do we break things out?
Katya Andresen said
Sorry to be a latecomer to this important conversation. (It’s fundraising season…) Thanks for starting it! I’m going to respond on a personal level rather than a theoretical one, because at the end of the day, I’m not an expert on women in the workforce but I’ve learned a lot from my own experience. I am a former journalist who dropped out of the profession in part because I wanted to pursue a nonprofit career, but also in part because it was so hard to be a wire-service journalist with no steady schedule and small children. I felt at an acute disadvantage. At the same time, the limitations on time and flexibility that children presented forced me into the behaviors that ironically accelerated my career – writing a book (instead of writing the news), blogging, participating in professional communities (when I had to forgo conferences), etc. These were all things that allowed me to pursue my career on remotely, with flexibliity, and to be part of a passionate community online. Now I manage to have mostly broken the glass nonprofit ceiling, and I credit much of it to the platform I built as an author, blogger and thinker — mostly online at 5 am and 11 pm. Social networking started as a fall-back, but it ended up as a leap-frog experience, removing the office-type barriers I couldn’t navigate when my children were young and helping me build the reputation, contacts and experience I needed to work at the C-level. But that’s not even the best part. The best part has been making the professional connections with other women like me – and this continues to be the most powerful part of the experience: sharing ideas and opportunities with people like you. I hope the networks we are creating ultimately not only break the glass ceilings but yield new structures – virtual ones – headed up by women and powered by technology.
Linda Tarr-Whelan said
Apologies for the late post — family concerns and holidays have kept me away. Thanks, Allison for raising such important questions and for the following posts. As an author I began blogging and communicating with bloggers to “spread the word” about the need for more women in leadership and how we can get there (www.lindatarrwhelan.com). To my surprise as a frequent speaker maybe I should say I’m 69!) I’ve really enjoyed the On-line dialog that ensues as much as the conversations in person.
Beyond enjoyment, however, my questions echo Allison’s questions: if women bloggers are at the “virtual glass ceiling” of 33%, why has “influence” lagged? In other fields, about 1/3 is the tipping point when women’s ideas, values and views are heeded and seen as needed. Are we in a separate world because we want to be or, are we marginalizing ourselves?
Maggie — the Advertising Age report is fascinating reading!
Linda